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Colonial Ste. Genevieve

6/23/2014

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I've been reading Carl Ekberg's Colonial Ste. Genevieve and wanted to share something that I've found in the book.

St. Gen is the oldest permanent European settlement in Missouri and was founded about thirty years before St. Louis.  It was located about five miles north of the settlement at Kaskaskia and about five miles south of Fort de Chartres.  St. Gen was a settlement located very much in the heart of the French Illinois Country. 

I've been poking around the history and records of Kaskaskia and St. Gen for years, looking for evidence of baseball activity during the colonial period.  I firmly believe, based on the fact that young French boys were playing ball games in St. Louis in the 18th century, that there was some form of ballplaying going on in Kaskaskia and St. Gen in the second half of the 1700s.  There was a common culture among the Creole settlers of the Illinois Country and if there was ballplaying among children in St. Louis, there must have been ballplaying in Kaskaskia and St. Gen.  More importantly, that ballplaying probably predates ballplaying activites in St. Louis, based on the fact that Kaskaskia and St. Gen were founded earlier than St. Louis.  That's my thinking, anyway, and I have no problem stating that I have precious little evidence to support this idea.  


However, Ekberg has given us a tantalizing clue about the activities of children in St. Gen and I believe it's relevant to what we're doing here. 
When in December 1797 De Luzieres described Fremon de Lauriere's position as schoolmaster in Ste. Genevieve, he mentioned that Fremon had been teaching his pupils "according to a rational plan of education..."
Part of of Fremon de Lauriere's plan included "Physical education to include dancing, wrestling, running, foot races, etc."

This, to me, is rather significant. 

Most of what we know about early ballplaying in the Illinois Country in the first half of the 19th century comes from people reminiscing about their days at school.  These pioneers talk about playing town ball, long ball, bullpen, ante over and ball games like that.  The earliest reference to ballplaying in Missouri that we have comes from Henry Gratiot talking about "playing ball" as a child.  So we know that children, particularly school-age children, were playing ball games in the region, going back to the 1790s.  And here we find Ekberg telling us that outdoor game-playing was a central part of a child's education in St. Gen at the same time that we know that Gratiot was playing ball games as a child in St. Louis.  Based on all of this, I'm assuming that part of the "etc.," unmentioned in de Lauriere's plan, was ball games.  

Ekberg also notes that there were schools in St. Gen, dating back to the 1780s, and it's possible that we may find evidence of ball-playing in the Illinois Country going back that far.  It certainly wouldn't surprise me.

There are many other interesting things in Ekberg's book and I would recommend you take a look at it, if you're interested in the colonial history of the Illinois Country.  Ekberg is, without a doubt, the expert on the subject and his French Roots in the Illinois Country is also excellent.  He's had a profound impact on my thinking about the period and I can't recommend his work enough.  
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St. Louis Baseball and the Civil War: The Excelsior Base Ball Club of St. Louis

6/20/2014

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A Match Game of Base Ball, between Excelsior and Commercial Juniors, will take place THIS DAY, at 2 o'clock, p.m., on Empire's ground.

-Missouri Republican, May 25, 1861
The day before this game was played Federal forces seized Alexandria, Virginia.  

The Excelsior Club was active in 1860 and I have a reference to a match game they played against the Lone Star Club in August of that year.  Tobias mentioned them in his history:
In a previous communication mention was made of the Excelsior Club as being one of the ante-bellum organizations that met with an early dissolution. Through the kindness of one of its surviving members, John McKernou, Esq., of Washington avenue and Twenty-First street, the following additional and interesting data has been obtained: The club was orgainized by the election of Jas. Fitzwilliams, president; Patrick Keenan, a whitener, was treasurer; W. Sullivan, a drummer, who taught the comedian, Jos. K. Emmett, how to handle the stick, was secretary and among its active members were Peter Fitzwilliams, who was killed in the rebel army; John Hogan, a bookbinder; Joseph Champine and my informant, whose memory fails him as to the others. The club found birth and home in two old omnibusses placed end to end at Sloan's Carriage Factory, Eighth and St. Charles streets where now stands N.O. Nelson & Co.'s building. When the club membership became too large for its original quarters, its meetings were held on the east side of Sixth street between Morgan and Franklin avenue back of what was known as Beckner's Garden and in front of the Sans Souci Garden, both being places of public resort. The club played on Gamble Lawn during its brief existence of one season, that period of time being long enough to tire the boys out in carrying the old style sand bag bases back and forth the long distance to the grounds. Another feature of the game that added to the disheartening of this mis-named club was the round shape of the bats, whereby they were unable to hit the ball so frequently as with the old paddle.

-E.H. Tobias, writing in The Sporting News, November 16, 1895
First, in the squib from the Republican, it is mentioned that the match was being played at the Empire Club's home ground and, at the time, this was Gamble Lawn.  Tobias also notes, above, that the Excelsiors played at Gamble Lawn grounds.  

However, the most fascinating thing in Tobias' notes on the club is that, in the past, they had used flat bats.  This is evidence of the possibility that the Excelsiors had formed originally as what one might call a "town ball" club.  To be more specific, it is possible that the club was active prior to 1860, when they were playing the baseball according to the national rules, and likely were playing the local, St. Louis version of baseball. 

We have precious little information about the old St. Louis baseball variant.  We know that, in Alton, there was a local variant that involved thirteen men per side and a five inning game.  However, it's impossible to say if that variant was also played in St. Louis, although I am of the belief that it was.  Tobias' notes give us the possibility that the St. Louis game involved a flat bat and that's just fascinating.  

I should also point out that this appears to be the Excelsiors' junior club rather than the Excelsiors proper.  
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Origins Research Goes Mainstream

9/19/2013

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I've mentioned my love/hate relationship with Grantland in the past.  I really enjoy Bill Simmons' stuff, love Jonah Keri's coverage of baseball and look forward to reading Andy Greenwald's recaps of the latest Breaking Bad episodes.  They even have Rany Jazaryerli writing for them and Rany is just about my favorite baseball writer around.  But, as part of ESPN, it's a broad, general sports site and I think it really lacks focus.  I don't think anyone knows what the site is or is supposed to be and I could do without most of the pop culture stuff.  There's also a few writers who I viscerally dislike.  In the end, I check the site everyday because I want to read Simmons, Keri, Rany and some of the other folks who write at the place.  

So I was checking Grantland yesterday, like I do everyday, and saw an article entitled In Search of Baseball's Holy Grail, with a subtitle mentioning how baseball history was being rewritten.  My interest was mildly aroused and I clicked on the piece.  To my surprise and shock, it was a profile of David Block and his fantastic work.  The article quoted John Thorn, mentioned Larry McCray and even provided a link to Protoball.  

Shocked doesn't begin to cover how I felt.  It's just amazing that the origins research that I'm a very small part of got mainstream sporting press coverage.  What we're doing is so weird and niche that I've always figured that nobody was paying attention or much cared.  I always figured that whenever any of us wrote a book it was only bought by other folks in the research community.  And that was never a big deal because none of us are looking for publicity or credit.  We just enjoy the work, think it's a lot of fun and believe that it's a worthwhile project.  I do this stuff simply because I like it.  If it wasn't fun I wouldn't do it.  But, good Lord, now this stuff ends up on a subsite of ESPN.com?  That's crazy.  

As soon as I figured out what the piece was and had skimmed through it, I emailed Larry and asked him if he had hired a publicist and didn't bother to tell me.  He told me that David was pleased with the piece and admitted that he had no idea what Grantland was.  Which is funny.  And I would imagine that David and John also have never been to Grantland.  But that's about as mainstream as it gets in the online sporting press and the fact that they covered origins research and linked to Protoball just blows my mind.  

So congratulations to all involved and I hope you head over and read an amazingly unique piece.      
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